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Florent

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#485652 The Mystery Project: Part 1

Posted by Florent on 22 September 2017 - 02:27 PM

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So hello SSLF. You may recognize me as that one person that occasionally gets annoyed in the Star Wars or Game of Thrones topics. Well I also do productive things, y'know. One time I even inspired scorp to make a thing apparently. Basicaly what I'm saying I have a lot of influence and you should pay attention to my art.

 

I've been concocting a Mystery Project over the past few months or so, and now the first tangible or presentable steps have been made. It's going to be a stop motion short film based on a beloved property. What beloved property you ask? Well if I told you it wouldn't be a Mystery Project then would it? If you can guess, I'll tell you. Though I'd be really surprised if anyone got it from just this first post. I'll maybe post an update here once a week or so, depending on how the progress is going. It's been a pretty slow process so far, so at this rate it could take months or even up to a year. I'm committed to it though, and I'll see this thing through unless some unforseen issues prove to be impassable. I may or may not forget that this thread exists, or forget to take photos of the process, so no promises on literally anything. I know I just said I'm committed but I'm really bad at commitment. Sue me.

 

So here we go. Step one. I bought some armatures on ebay for cheapo (something like $10 each). I was considering (and still kinda am) using Hero Factory or Bionicles as the skeletons, but for a few reasons I decided against it. For one, they're just not articulate enough for me. They tend to be kind of stiff and their proportions are a bit... off. Just look at those feet and hands. Gross. I also have an aversion to permanently disfigure any Lego pieces (even Hero Factory) for something that isn't even related to a Lego project. One time I made a silicone mold and used some bricks as the casing, and I've never forgiven myself. The reason I'm still considering it though is because of the size. The armatures I got are something like 5" tall, which is going to be a pain to fill in with little details. Plus one of them (there will be two characters in the film) is supposed to be really big, like way bigger than the other. If they're the same size IRL I'm gonna need to do some fancy camera tricks to pull it off. Or I could just use a bigger skeleton and make it closer to the "real" size, which these Hero Factory skeletons are.

 

[Click on the pics to make them bigger.]

 

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Step two is to gather various materials from around the house. Most of this stuff is scavenged, but later on I'll need to buy a few things. At this point though it's been a total of $0 for everything except the armatures. If I can keep it that way I'll be pretty happy. Something that always bothered me about literally every action figure ever is the seams. The joints at the elbows, legs, etc where you can see where the two plastic parts fit together. I've always wondered why toy companies don't just put cloth over these sections to hide it. I'm doing exactly that. I cut up an old t shirt and glued it onto the figure's bones, about half an inch above the joints. Just cut it to size and glue in place. Not that hard, every toy company ever. Though I may find out why they don't do this. There could be some unforseen consequences to this method. 

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I guess I lied and said that I didn't buy any of the materials. I'm using milliput and greenstuff (that's what people call it, I swear) to build up a little bit of musculature over the skeleton. I already had this laying around from some old projects though, so I mean I didn't actually buy it for this project. I didn't buy the shirt for this either. Bam. I'm not a liar. You probably won't see any of this stuff on the completed figure, but it gives way more depth to how it'll look at the end if the cloth isn't just resting on bare plastic.

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Another major component is my favorite stuff ever. Styrofoam. I'd prefer to use polystyrene (basically the same thing but without the pebbly texture) but I don't have any of that laying around. I've got a 4x6 foot slab of this stuff just chilling in the basement though, so there you have it.

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I'm slicing little chunks out with an exacto blade and gluing them onto the armature to build up a sort of rocky skin texture and shape. I'll paint it to look really cool later.

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Step three is actually putting these materials to use. After building up the muscles with milliput, I'm gluing the cloth over the joints, then putting pieces of the styrofoam over the whole thing. I'm just using white Elmer's glue for this whole project. Maybe some superglue too, but for the most part this is a collab with my boy E.

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After attaching the bits I coat the whole thing in glue to fill in the gaps and seal it from the stress of existing. I don't want any little chunks of styrofoam to fall off, so I'm literally just gluing it all together to make a homogeneous piece of plastic-like skin. I know what I'm doing. I think.

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This is what I have to show after about 4-5 days of work. It's been slow and I'm figuring out as I go, and most of my day is spent just waiting for the glue to dry, but I'm really happy with how it's coming along. Everything has been going to plan.

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As a little bonus, here's one of the many funny poses I put this guy in to keep the glue from dripping into the joints. I could make a whole post with just these funny lookin photos.

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Well there you have it. If you have any guesses as to what this is going to be based on, let me know. If you have any experience with stop motion (especially things like lighting, forced perspective, and what camera/lenses to use) or armature building let me in on the secrets. This'll be a long term project and I have high standards for myself. I want this to be as good as I can possibly make it. Also if there are any classical music nerds who want to do the music for this thing I'm totally looking. I have no musical knowledge or skill, but there won't be any dialogue in this thing. It'll just be sfx and an orchestral soundtrack. I'm looking at Wagner's Ring of the Nibelungs as inspiration, if that means anything to anyone. 

 

Maybe you'll see an update here next week. Maybe. Motivate me to keep taking these photos and writing about it, if you want to see more. Otherwise I might forget to document the process lol.




#485640 Star Wars Movies: The J After Trevorrow

Posted by Florent on 19 September 2017 - 03:33 PM

I have no things to say about Rebels. I watch it, 60% is pretty much throwaway kids stuff, another portion is genuinely good Star Wars stuff. I'd rather watch any season of Rebels over sitting through Rogue One.

As to the studio meddling, if it were any other Disney produced movie I'd agree. Literally every Marvel movie seems like it's made by the same team (which like, they kinda are), but the new SW have proven to be pretty unique so far. I guess we can't really say for sure until TLJ comes out, because R1 could just be a fluke, but I'd say there is definitely a sense of authorship (that's a word right) in the Disney Star Wars movies. Even if every movie from here on out is trash, there will always be Harmy's versions of the originals to watch. Clown Raws will always be around if you like that too. Rebels is ending soon so whether you like it or hate it, it will all be over soon. We're all going to die eventually.

 

Wait what happened... Oh yeah, I talked about Star Wars on the internet and ended up looking forward to the sweet embrace of death. Standard operating procedure tbh. I'mma watch the movies, see the show, maybe read one or two of the silly tie in novels, and try not to get too mad about this stuff. In the end we're all going to go see TLJ. Disney will end up with the money of every single person reading this comment right now. There is nothing we can do about it. We'll all be rotting in the ground soon anyways.

 

Wait crap it happened again. I'm donezo.




#485494 Star Wars Movies: The J After Trevorrow

Posted by Florent on 08 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

Guys... what if they bring in George Lucas to make a Star War?




#485470 Star Wars Movies: The J After Trevorrow

Posted by Florent on 06 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

Very happy to see that guy isn't at the helm. Nothing personal against the guy, but I'm not a fan of his movies. If at all possible, I'd like to avoid another Rogue One scenario. Star Wars isn't particularly philosophically complex but I look forward to the emotional beats of these movies more than the action set pieces. I like Empire Strikes Back most because of the time with Yoda, seeing Han and Leia's frantic escape antics and budding romance, and getting to know the characters. I don't really care about the battles if, y'know, I don't care about the people fighting in them. I get the feeling that a Trevorrow Star Wars movie would be more along the lines of R1 than TFA. Happy to see that they're pulling the plug. Hopefully they get someone good for 9.

 

Also btw, isn't it weird that a Star Wars movie won't have a V anywhere in the roman numerals? I can handle I II and III, but "Episode IX" just doesn't look right. . .  Inevitably when they make another trilogy (hopefully after giving this one some time to breath. Hopefully.) they should just call it STAR WARS X. Not "10", I mean literally "ecks". Go full Megaman.




#485399 Game of Thrones: What about Ygritte, Jon?

Posted by Florent on 23 August 2017 - 03:09 AM

Me coming back to this thread now that being a hater is cool again.

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#481024 Star Wars Movies: The J After Trevorrow

Posted by Florent on 21 December 2016 - 12:20 PM

Spoiler

 

Also: hey Occy, I would watch an entire movie about Empire politics and board meetings with backstabbings and intrigue starring Thrawn (Pellaeon? I miss my mustachioed Star Watson), Tarkin and Krennic all pitted against each other trying to gain influence with Vader/Sheev and trying to climb the political ladder. Fite me. I love seeing all the back room Imperial scenes. Death Star of Cards sounds dope as hell to me.

 

Also 2: whys anybody calling this a standalone movie? It isn't at all. It's a tie in to Star Wars. Rebels is a standalone story. Rogue One is just fleshing out the backstory of an existing Star Wars movie, and isn't a contained story at all. Not that that's a bad thing, but it's weird how people are all "this is the first Star Wars movie to have nothing to do with the others!" like um, did we watch the same movie? I'd say R1 relies more on Star Wars for its storytelling than Force Awakens. If you cut out all the bits that reference New Hope, there isn't much left in Rogue One to care about (not that there was much to begin with :whistling: )

 

Also 3: I'm also gonna reiterate that despite my negativity I actually liked the movie, just didn't love it. If you and you friends loved everything about Rogue One, then great! I'm glad you did. Not judgement. To me it just didn't focus on the stuff I liked. It picked an aspect of the series, and ran with it full out. For that, it had my respect. Gareth Edwards directed a beautiful movie with a real sense of personality to it. It's a completely different tone than any other movie we've seen in this series, which is a bold move. It just didn't land for me personally. Didn't miss the target it was aiming for, it just wasn't a 2-meter womprat that I particularly cared about seeing bullseyed in a T-16 back home or whatever idk this metaphor got out of hand.

 




#480786 Star Wars Movies: The J After Trevorrow

Posted by Florent on 16 December 2016 - 06:16 AM

Y'all seen it yet? Came out in Asia a couple days ago and I seen't it twice.




#472596 Game of Thrones: What about Ygritte, Jon?

Posted by Florent on 15 June 2016 - 08:30 AM

They rushed through the first three books. They have no excuse for why they're out of material. Plus you know they didn't even DO books 4 or 5 (for the most part). I never bought the "we ran out of content!" argument. They just handled the content they had poorly. That's it. Now that their runway is gone they've completely gone off the rails. When they don't have GRRM as a crutch to their writing it really shows and the overall quality goes down. There is no one to blame except the showrunners.




#472067 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 02:02 PM

It's Medal of Honor right Occy, that's your fave game right?




#472051 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 01:55 PM

how uninspired is that name

 

About as uninspired as their whole show am I right




#472043 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 01:52 PM

Hey a Star Trek game. I wonder if this one will be a third person shooter. You know, the most appropriate way to adapt Star Trek into interactive format.




#472001 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 01:25 PM

Oh hey it's the two Jerkfaces who write south park. I wonder if they'll tell WACKY JOKES and mention GENITALS LOL BRO

 

EDIT: HAHA BUTTHOLE




#471969 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 01:05 PM

AH yes, Just Dance, the pinnacle of innovation in gaming.




#471947 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 12:45 PM

Oh hey look it's "Some men's sky", totally unrelated to any other games coming out soon!




#471929 E3 2016: Nintendo Strikes Back

Posted by Florent on 13 June 2016 - 12:15 PM

Oh god no... it looks so bad. Why not just do another Life is Strange type story? IT'S OKAY TO RIP OFF TELLTALE. YOU DID A GOOD JOB AT IT.