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#486619 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 10 February 2018 - 03:52 AM

You should change the thread title to "George Lucas Directs Fourth Star Wars Prequel"

#486612 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 09 February 2018 - 07:54 AM

I think I've mentioned before that I was really happy when The Force Awakens didn't do that; it finishes with a lightsabre fight and an aerial battle, but it sticks with Finn vs. Kylo until that's done, then stays with Poe during his trench run until he's done his thing, then it's back to Rey vs. Kylo until that's finished. No constant chopping and changing between the two.


TBH I actually don't like how TFA handled it all that well. The climactic moment for the every character in the story is when Rey picks up the lightsaber in the woods. It's like, the most important moment in the entire narrative and it has to share the limelight with Poe destroying the base. Half way through the fight with Rey and Kylo, they just cut away to Poe shootin' stuff. It might honestly be my leaft favorite part of TFA. Star Wars has always had a fear of letting a narrative beat actually have its moment. When Obi-Wan dies in ANH the movie takes like literally 6 seconds to mourn him before the next action beat. Luke's confrontation with the Emperor and Vader in RotJ is constantly undermined by cutting to Lando flying around and Ewok shenanigans. I love that in TLJ even though everything is being cut intermittently, every scene has the same kind of "OH MY GAWWWWD" tone, where the tension keeps ramping up, like you said, until the big splosion. That's some darn good editing and story structuring. Empire does it too when Luke is fighting Vader while the gang is trying to save Han. Everyone is in a similarly perilous situation that they are nevertheless trying to bravely fight through.


It's the difference between good filmmakers and... well, George Lucas. He's bad at making movies, kids. Give him no credit for all the best parts of Star Wars, because he was not responsible for them.

#486597 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 07 February 2018 - 02:05 PM

TBH this image might have just sold me on this movie right now.





#486585 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 06 February 2018 - 07:22 PM

This is my nightmare.


EDIT: As far as the sexism goes, D&D have a really warped view on feminism and progress in general, and it is very much reflected in their writing. No, not just the multiple graphic rape scenes (...isn't that enough though?) but in their entire approach to the female characters in their story. Every time I think about what they're doing with Arya, Brienne, Daenerys, Sansa, and pretty much everyone else they're writing, I just get a littler sad tbh. Their idea of female empowerment is just having all their women characters make smug faces after doing some badass kill-move. Those are cardboard cutouts of "awesomeness", not actual human characters written with flaws and respect. Let's not forget that one of those guys is responsible for X-men: Origins as well. This is the guy in charge of a Star Wars SERIES?!



 I need some air.

#486515 The Mystery Project: Part 4.5 (UPDATED 2/2)

Posted by Florent on 02 February 2018 - 01:09 PM

Hey all! Since I didn't update last month, I've decided to give a little teaser for this month's update. Hopefully I'll have something really cool to show you at the end of February here.




It's a test shot! Again... Yeah yeah I've already posted a couple of these, but I've built up the baseplates even more with the clay+polyurethane foam from my last update.



But I do have one more thing to show you guys...



#486343 The Mystery Project: Part 4.5 (UPDATED 2/2)

Posted by Florent on 24 December 2017 - 03:20 PM

Hey guys, small update this month. Unfortunately didn't get much work done because of the holiday rush at work.





I did manage to (almost) finish my second armature though! There are still some parts on the legs and feet that I need to touch up, but this guy in 90% done.




I made the tunic out of a burgundy T-shirt I bought at Goodwill for .99c (second hand thrift store for my non-US peeps). The armor is painted cardboard from a cereal box and Greenstuff molded by hand.




The belt/strap along his tunic is also greenstuff. I tied a string around the area but it didn't end up looking right. 




Both armatures facing off. Reminder that the rock guy is supposed to be bigger. Like, much bigger. You'll see next month ;)




His pants are liquid latex, which I painted on over a layer of clay that I put on the joints. Liquid latex is funky because it's white while liquid, then dries into a kinda gross transparent-yellow color. Thing is, if you add a couple of drops of paint to it while it's wet it can actually retain that color. I added grey, green, and black paint almost equally to get the.. well, it just ended up being gray but I kinda like the way it looks. I used plastalina clay, which is basically just sculpey that doesn't dry out or harden, on the joints. Just built up little "clothes" thickness so it doesn't look like his pants were painted on... which they were. then after a couple coats, I carefully peeled away the latex and removed the clay. The cool matte-gray color of his pants in the photos is achieved by turning the latex pants inside-out, so it still has a little bit of clay residue and texture that was maintained. It gives a neat look, IMO. I'm really happy with how it turned out.




I kinda like how the lighting looks and reflects off the dirt and grass on this platform. I may end up using this angle instead of the 45° angle I was planning on. We'll see. Next month. I promise.




Aaaaaaand because this is a progress update, this is pre-paint.



Unfortunately I didn't have time (or daylight, tbh) to set up any real test shots or animation. Now that all the prop/set/actor building is done though, I really have no excuse any more. The only thing left to do is start animating and shooting. Oh, also I have to paint a couple rocks. Please ban me if my update next month is just more painted rocks. See ya guys! Hopefully it'll be cool. It'll be great. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.

#486341 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 24 December 2017 - 01:06 PM

We're discussing the science of how Star Wars technology and physics work. We have officially gone to the dark side of no return.


The force works however it needs to to fit the story. Same with hyperdrives, Stormtrooper aim, and gravity. The bombs in star wars fall down because it's based on WWII footage. The cockpits and interiors have gravity "just because". Stormtroopers always miss because if they hit the main character, the story would be over. THIS IS A FICTIONAL STORY. This is not a historical document. The physics do not need to work. The only thing that needs to happen is for you (targeted at no individual but in general) to suspend your disbelief.


Why didn't the Rebels use a hyperdrive to destroy the Death Star? They didn't have a ship that was big enough to spare. Why don't all space battles end in kamikaze runs? Same as before. Why don't they just accelerate objects at hyperspeed towards each other? They do. It's called guns. Blasters. Cannons. Why do the bombs fall down in space? There's gravity on the inside of the ship, like, the girl falls down the ladder. That same force is effecting the bombs, and then once they're in space they'll continue along that vector. 


THIS ISN'T IMPORTANT THOUGH. Star Wars is not Star Trek. How hyperdrives work and are fueled is never brought up, and probably never will be. And I aint talkin bout no comic books or videogames. I'm talking about what's in these movies. I mean heck, Han says "We're making the jump to light speed" or something similar. If they were going light speed it would take like YEARS (there are these things called lightyears) to get anywhere. They're probably going faster. Or they're not going very far. Either way, it doesn't impact the story. They're going from here to there, and they're going pretty fast. I never want to know what kind of horsepower the Millenium Falcon gets. I don't need to know how many kph it can go in deep space. I just know that it made the Kessel Run in less that 12 parsecs. That doesn't mean anything in real life, but here's the thing people.


Star Wars is not in fact real life.






 EDIT: Also I feel like I should say this because I think I made Scorp sad: That was a quote from the movie. You should check it out.

#486330 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 23 December 2017 - 06:44 PM

Funny, every word you just said is wrong.

#486328 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 23 December 2017 - 02:39 PM


#486308 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 20 December 2017 - 05:37 PM

Also jus saying this is probably the least "made by committee" movie of the franchise for ~30 years. This was really an auteur film that is more a Rian Johnson project than even a Star Wars movie tbh.

#486304 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 20 December 2017 - 02:02 PM

By shedding the baggage of previous films across all 8 previous Star Wars movies, Rian showed us what Star Wars is. It's more than lightsabers, Jedi, the Force, callbacks to previous films, Luke Han and Leia, Anakin, Darth Vader... By taking all that and throwing it over his shoulders he's saying "This universe, this story, is more than those things." That's what was so beautiful to me about TLJ. Not dispassionately sitting back and enjoying the technical aspects of directing/acting/screenwriting/cinematography. It's Star Wars stripped of everything you thought you cared about, leaving only the good stuff.


In a sense it's the opposite of Rogue One. A movie that exists solely to pointlessly fill in backstory and show off cool space battles. There's no heart, no message, just pure action and destruction with Death Stars and X wings... and it's awful. It's everything that a Star Wars movie is supposed to *look* like, but has nothing of what makes Star Wars feel like. TLJ is the opposite. It disregards all of the flashy surface-level elements, and presents the heart of what Star Wars is to me and a lot of other people too, apparently.

#486262 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 17 December 2017 - 12:47 AM

Occy maybe it's the early hour of the morning and the one or two beverages, but your description of the space worm/asteroid chase and its relation to the plot of ESB almost made me cry. I love Star Wars. I love The Last Jedi.




#486259 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 16 December 2017 - 11:51 PM

Occy it's true. All of it. 


It'll be interesting to see how this movie is remembered years down the line. On one hand it could be like ESB, not really appreciated at the time but looked back upon fondly as a turning point for "modern" media (for the record I don't think TLJ is at that level). On the other we could see ourselves living in the world that Metal Gear Solid 2 predicted where we just search out for the people that agree with us, start small single-minded communities, and ignore everything else that goes against our beliefs. Who knows. Maybe this movie will really show us just the scope of how dead public discourse has become. 





Also for the record, I welcome this adversity. If you didn't like the movie, I'm not trying to say you're wrong. It's actually pretty cool how we can all have drastically different interpretations of how this story went, and what the next chapter should be. I tend to align myself with Rian Johnson's approach and think this way of continuing the story is bold, unexpected, but welcome (teehee). FireRaven, Scorp/Wolfy(?), and any other lurkers who didn't like it: GREAT! I don't want everyone to agree. Please, share your thoughts. I'd love to read and ponder them. I might not agree, but I hope nobody feels that I disrespect what they're saying. Anything you guys've got to say is just as valid as my stuff. Nobody's ever going to be "right" about this. It's very subjective and just up to you how you feel. :)

#486256 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 16 December 2017 - 10:27 PM

Well it's certainly better than Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. . . But is it better than A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back? I have to see it again, but it may be a close second behind ESB. What a fricken ballsy movie by Rian Johnson. It wasn't what we wanted. It wasn't what we deserved. It was what we needed. It's the first Star Wars movie that doesn't cater to the audience's expectations. It literally (LITERALLY) throws them out in like the first scene. You know which one I'm talking about. Rian gave us such a new take on everything we loved, and I love him for that. 



#486247 Star Wars Movie Thread: Qi'ra? I barely even know'a!

Posted by Florent on 16 December 2017 - 12:55 PM



God I loved it so much.