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#1 Whitescarver

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:20 AM



Hoooowdy boys and that one girl who was here about two months ago last time I checked, it seems Bay is starting to release a few somethings about the
new Transformers movie, which news to me, comes out June 26.
Thanks to this article from, USA Today, they've given us a little preview ((Six pictures and a wall of text)) for the upcoming movie.

QUOTE ('Anthony Breznican @ USA TODAY')
WHITE SANDS MISSILE RANGE, N.M. The United States military has declared war on giant, shape-shifting alien robots.

Amid blinding platinum dunes baking in the 105-degree sun, scores of elite servicemen and women cluster in and around real tanks, rocket launchers and personnel carriers as they unleash a machine-gun barrage at an invisible (and entirely fictional) enemy: Transformers.

These troops, many of them recently returned from the actual life-and-death realities of Iraq and Afghanistan, aren't professional actors. But for the moment, they are the stars and this is the climactic battle of next summer's sequel Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

"I'm convinced. If we were to actually fight Transformers, this is how we would do it," jokes Lt. Col. Francisco "Paco" Hamm, the Air Force liaison to the film, who oversees the use of the branch's humans and hardware.


Boy am I excited about this, I missed Optie up there. <3 It's not much but it makes for at least a TF: RotF topic.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 09:51 AM

I saw footage from where they were shooting it. They were firing hand-held gattling guns like Heavy Weapons Guy. Huh? Since when did the military just hand out gattling guns? Oh well, this is Transformers, and hopefully it'll live up to the first one.
Also - Megatron is a tank in this one.
There is an image of him just as a tank, but you can just see the differences in his design, plus the fact that he has treads on his feet:

EDIT: The cat is Ravage, BTW.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 09:56 AM

I really look forward to this, hopefully Megatron will get more screen time, hell hopefully all the Decepticons will get more screen time.

You know what they should do though? Make a Beast Wars movie. That would be epic.


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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:35 AM

Ugh, I'm so sick of the first movie by now. I've seen it too many times. I hated the action in the first one because, while giant robots fighting is awesome, you couldn't tell what the hell was going on. It was just a big ball of nuts, bolts, and car engines rolling around with an explosion here or there. The explosions were pretty, though. smile.gif

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:43 AM

Style// Oh my my, it looks like bay is trying to reach for that old timin' Transformers feel.

Xero// I can't wait to see the role Star scream plays in this film.

Muff// I still can't get enough of the movie, even though it did have a lot of gayitude to it, flashy new cars and whatnot.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:12 AM

The problem with the first one was the robot fights were either really short (Optimus and Bonecrusher) or you didn't get to see much of it at all (Bumblebee and the car, who's name I forget, or the second part of Optimus and Megatron fighting). However, it was still one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Heck, only 6 were better than it, IMO:
Star Wars: A new Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
The Dark Knight
Iron Man
Indiana Jones the the Last Crusade.

I'm hyped, this looks awesome. DAMN AWESOME.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 06:56 PM

I laughed at that last bit: "But sir, this is Hollywood! I'm shooting at invisible aliens and firing a gun that never runs out of ammo!".
Hmm I wonder if they'll bring out a third one with an aircraft carrier as Unicron. that'd be awesome seeing something that big transform. Thank George Lucas for creating ILM.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (Complex Grey @ Dec 30 2008, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm I wonder if they'll bring out a third one with an aircraft carrier as Unicron. that'd be awesome seeing something that big transform. Thank George Lucas for creating ILM.

Unicron was a friggin' planet. No way will he be an aircraft carrier.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (- S T Y L E - @ Dec 30 2008, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unicron was a friggin' planet. No way will he be an aircraft carrier.

And Bumble Bee was a VW Bug, look where that went.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (- S T Y L E - @ Dec 30 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unicron was a friggin' planet. No way will he be an aircraft carrier.


yeah but do you really think Bay is going to go full on Star Wars Sci-Fi and have this great big Kriffing planet transformer? besides I do remember reading something about him wanting to do an aircraft carrier, so my money would be on it being Unicron.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:32 PM

If Ravage is in the movie does that mean we'll get to see Soundwave? With his awesome robot voice?

I just hope they focus on the Transformers this time. I quite liked the first movie, but there was too much human and not enough robot. Nobody cares about Shia and Skanky McObviouslysleptherwayintothispart, we came here to watch Optimus Prime punch things. Bring back Megatron (and for God's sake get Frank Welker to voice him), bring in Soundwave, give Starscream more airtime. Give us Grimlock, and if he's not a T-Rex then go back and redesign him until he is. While you're at it, redesign Optimus Prime so that he's less spindly and more Optimus Primey. That's how they can make the sequel perfect. I don't ask for much, just two straight hours of robots wailing on eachother. Skip the exposition, cut all the scenes with the people. Just take the final half-hour of the first movie as a guideline and make it bigger and explodier.

EDIT - Oh, and Devastator! The real one, the giant thing made up of the Constructicons. I seem to remember them naming that tank in the first movie Devastator, but I don't remember whether they actually said it in the movie, so it might not be too late to retcon that sucker. The sequel needs some really freakin' huge Transformers, and it's too early to bring in Unicron or Primus or Sentinel Prime or anything, so Devastator's the best bet.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 03:03 AM

I entirely agree with Ocelot, get rid of humans and make it just the robots. If you really need humans, then keep it as the soldiers fighting them.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:05 AM

Ocelot, the human part is inevitable. I would prefer just the Transformers myself, but alas, those days are over. The Transformers aren't the protagonists any more sad.gif
QUOTE ('Complex Grey')
yeah but do you really think Bay is going to go full on Star Wars Sci-Fi and have this great big Kriffing planet transformer? besides I do remember reading something about him wanting to do an aircraft carrier, so my money would be on it being Unicron.

Sure, I think he would. He might not be a full size planet, but he might be a moon or something.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (Ocelot @ Dec 31 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just hope they focus on the Transformers this time. I quite liked the first movie, but there was too much human and not enough robot. Nobody cares about Shia and Skanky McObviouslysleptherwayintothispart, we came here to watch Optimus Prime punch things. Bring back Megatron (and for God's sake get Frank Welker to voice him), bring in Soundwave, give Starscream more airtime. Give us Grimlock, and if he's not a T-Rex then go back and redesign him until he is. While you're at it, redesign Optimus Prime so that he's less spindly and more Optimus Primey. That's how they can make the sequel perfect. I don't ask for much, just two straight hours of robots wailing on eachother. Skip the exposition, cut all the scenes with the people. Just take the final half-hour of the first movie as a guideline and make it bigger and explodier.

EDIT - Oh, and Devastator! The real one, the giant thing made up of the Constructicons. I seem to remember them naming that tank in the first movie Devastator, but I don't remember whether they actually said it in the movie, so it might not be too late to retcon that sucker. The sequel needs some really freakin' huge Transformers, and it's too early to bring in Unicron or Primus or Sentinel Prime or anything, so Devastator's the best bet.


Ok Ocelot, is it just me or do we seem to clash more often or not in the movie section?
I agree that more screen time would be better, but you're forgetting something that all movies need to be good: Plot. If a good plot requires humans in it than they obviously are needed. as for the romance it was a Kriffing lot better than the one in AVP Suckuiem. you might go wanting to see Prime hit things but I go there to see how he can impart his wisdom onto the other Autobots as their leader. If something needs to be blown up that's what I want Ironhide to do. Frank Welker's voice, though it was good for the cartoon gun, I prefer Hugo Weaving's just because it's more apropriate and sounds more deadly sort of like Galvatron's.
Though I like Grimlock I'd prefer it if he wasn't in the movie so that they don't screw his character up and end up making him a cement mixer.

Also my Idea of an Aircraft Carrier as Unicron applies to your last statement and the Tank was Known as Brawl, man he was Kriffing awesome, and not only because he was a tank but because he took on Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz, the Humans and finally Bumblebee before he went down permenantley. I also remeber reading something about Cybertron appearing in this movie though that might've been something that was later cut.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE (Complex Grey @ Dec 30 2008, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the Tank was Known as Brawl, man he was Kriffing awesome, and not only because he was a tank but because he took on Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz, the Humans and finally Bumblebee before he went down permenantley.


Actually the true tank's name is Brawl, but they named him Devastator in the movie. And I read the Constructicons may appear in this one. Also the Aircraft Carrier seems more realistic for Unicron than a moon or planet, mainly due to the size, and how awesome it could be.

I just can't wait to see that movie. At least there will be robots at the beginning, you don't need to wait too much to see them.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Syn @ Dec 30 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Bumble Bee was a VW Bug, look where that went.

Apparently Bay couldn't get the rights to use a VW Bug as Bumblebee or something.

Also, in the special features it said they tried Frank but his voice wasn't menacing enough. They show you a clip, and Hugo was better...

...doesn't anyone watch the Special Features?

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:40 PM

Kill off Optimus Prime and give us Ultra Magnus please.
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Posted 30 December 2008 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE (- S T Y L E - @ Dec 30 2008, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unicron was a friggin' planet. No way will he be an aircraft carrier.


Unicron was a Moon.
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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Blade-Angel @ Dec 30 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently Bay couldn't get the rights to use a VW Bug as Bumblebee or something.

Also, in the special features it said they tried Frank but his voice wasn't menacing enough. They show you a clip, and Hugo was better...

...doesn't anyone watch the Special Features?

My dvd didn't come with them, I totally bought the wrong one. ; -;
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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:09 PM

QUOTE (880_ZERO @ Dec 31 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kill off Optimus Prime and give us Ultra Magnus please.


Oh no you di'in't! Ultra Magnus wishes he was as cool as Optimus Prime.

I can't believe they weren't satisfied with Frank Welker's voice. Frank Welker can sound like anything, he is the king of voice acting; if they wanted menacing he could have done it. I'm pretty sure they went with Hugo Weaving just because they wanted a bigger 'name' associated with the movie.

QUOTE (Complex Grey @ Dec 31 2008, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok Ocelot, is it just me or do we seem to clash more often or not in the movie section?


laugh.gif Guess so.

I think a Michael Bay movie about giant robots is the wrong place to be looking for a plot. Not all movies need to have the traditional characteristics of a film. A detailed story isn't always necessary, nor are romance sub-plots or elaborate human drama. The problem with the first movie is that it was literally all about the humans. The Transformers, who were real characters in the cartoon and carried the whole show by themselves, were just background noise; they showed no character development, they were just stereotypes and pale imitations of their original incarnations. Look at the first Transformers movie; Optimus Prime dying is tear-jerking because he was a real person, not just a giant robot. Michael Bay missed the point by such a long way with the first movie that I can't expect anything profound to come from the second, so I just hope for some awesome fight scenes and new characters.




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