Before I begin, let me say one thing. Spark, your enjoyment of Fallout 3 should, IN NO WAY, be hindered or made meaningless by Thrawnie, myself, Richard, or anyone else's lack of enjoyment. You found a game you loved, congratulations. I am sincerely jealous of you. I love video games, and I love finding ones that hit me in the right way. Fallout 3 did that for you. Be proud of it. It did not for me. You may be a minority online, or feel that way right now. Who cares? You had more fun than we did. No matter how you look at that, you win. Period.
With that said, I've been burned far too often by the so-called Triple-A gaming market, and many others who are cynics have been the same way. This same thing cropped up back when Star Wars Battlefront was announced. The game, factually, is planned to have less features than a previous game. It has Pre-order DLC. If past experiences are anything to go by, it will probably have a terrible launch. And gamers got called elitists because they wanted a sequel to have more, or at least, a similar amount of content to the previous game. I don't think wanting what was in past games makes us elitists. It just means we won't settle.
And why should we? These people are trying to get our money, after all. They should be enticing us, not begging.
Fallout 3 pissed me off. It was one of the few times that a game's game-breaking bug meant I could not complete a quest, a quest that I worked really hard to finish. Hawk, in his playthrough, by exploring the map ended up skipping half the game. These are bad programming, and should never, ever fly. Because of these reasons, and because of Skyrim's own bugs, I have come to view Bethesda as incompetent developers, and nothing I've seen has shown me otherwise. Maybe you didn't see the glitches, maybe you experienced your own and weren't bothered by them. I was. And because of those reasons, I am very skeptical over the quality of Fallout 4. Before I give Bethesda any money for this game, they need to show me that they can release a product that isn't, in my opinion, broken.
Game companies don't owe us gamers anything. We give them an inch, they will take a mile. We say it's okay to fix bugs with patches--suddenly patches are an acceptable part of software development. We say it's okay to include DLC, suddenly we are inundated with such practices. These things keep happening, game companies keep abusing our trust, and more and more gamers are getting sick of it.
I felt that Fallout 3 was an abuse of my trust--the trust that when a game is placed on the shelf, it will be in a finished, working, not glitchy state. Fallout 3 taught me that even if a game is highly praised, well received, and from a large studio, I can still view it as a piece of garbage. Master Chief Collection released broken. Freakin' Tetris released broken.
Trust between gamers and the developers keeps getting tested. Gamers simply don't want to be burned anymore.
I think a healthy cynicism can only be good for the industry as a whole. I think if we can kill this pre-order culture (which, by the way, you can pre-order Fallout 4 now if you want), and teach developers that we expect a level of quality from their games, that pre-rendered trailers -aren't- enough to get us to toss money at them, that we expect to be treated with respect, then we will have less experiences like Fallout 3 was for me. But first, we need to speak with our money, we need to not see a pre-rendered trailer and throw money at a company over some bizarre sense of trust, and we need to be more aware of what we buy.
Does being burned in the past and not willing to put faith that "they'll get it right the next time" make me an elitist?
ANYWAY, just my two cents. I see the "E" word get thrown around and get really riled up. Just because I'm not excited does not somehow make your excitement any less meaningful, and vice versa. Could I keep my trap shut? Yes. But we are here to talk about games, and I think we should be allowed to do so.
With all that said, could we all be a bit more polite to each other, and not crap all over the other people's opinions? Absolutely. I'm just as guilty as anyone here. I love good snark, probably too much.
And, I'm going to bed. I'm half asleep, so I hope that makes some sense.