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#61 God-Emperor Thrawnie

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 06:32 PM

Despite some of the things people have mentioned above, you have to admit there is quite a strong 'cool factor' about it.

That's actually the problem. They're trying way too hard.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 07:02 PM

The 'cool factor' is a massive neck-snapping tonal and aesthetic shift from the setting it is meant to take place in, particularly in terms of the writing. I know I'm one of only like, three people in the world that seem to give a rip about aesthetics and styles and level design but come on, you cannot possibly look at this and associate it with Lord of the Rings, the founding work of High Fantasy. Talion's design lacks any consistency with the established styles human characters wear, covered in rags and cuts and grime. Even the wraiths took better care of their robes, and one of them was set on fire. The saturation is dropped to frigging zero as per tradition, making any details or identifying marks illegible, and the fighting has gone from the swashbuckley movie style to needlessly brutal and complex Assassin's Creed ballet. Look at the dull repetition of the areas, which are all just big arenas of grey planks and grey rocks connected by narrow grey alleyways. There is no significance to any one place, none of the buildings have clear function or purpose besides being big fences to keep you in the arenas where you fight orcs that all have nearly identical colors and silhouettes. If they didn't put 3 markers on him, you wouldn't even know who the 'nemesis' orc was.


It's really pretty disappointing, because I really love the idea of the Nemesis system thing and consistent enemies that learn how to fight back against repetitive strategies, that would be awesome. Of course, knowing how these preview things work, the actual implementation will be like Skyrim's 'random quests' - Repetitive, meaningless, and poorly done.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:44 PM

I bet I know how the story pitch for this game went.


"A long time ago, there was this Ranger named Tallion with a dark and mysterious past. One day, as he was walking through the woods, he met Sam and Frodo, who were on their way to Mordor to throw the Ring into Mount Doom. Tallion knew that this was too dangerous for them, so he convinced them to give him the Ring and he went to Mordor all by himself. While he was there, he saw that Sauron was gathering an army of Titans to attack Gondor, so Tallion fought all of them, but they were too tough, so he got his best friend Sonic to help him, but they were still too tough, but then Twilight Sparkle taught him how to use his magic and he won. Then Tallion and his new friends got attacked by Loki, who was really powerful and stuff, so Tallion summoned Pikachu to hit him with electricity and they won. Then, they all fought Sauron's eye on top of the tower, but he was too strong, but then Tallion threw the Ring into the lava and Sauron exploded and they won. Then Tallion married Sherlock and adopted seven children, and they all lived happily ever after."


"Bill, your daughter is a genius! Do we have the rights to all of those things? No? Okay, just leave in the Lord of the Rings stuff; we'll let the monkeys figure the rest out."

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 09:27 PM

Good god...


Anyone who knows me at all knows that I'm the farthest cry from a Tolkien elitist. I actually enjoy the movies a deal better than the books, as I'm sure I've mentioned. The only one in the civilized world who does, but it's cool. So if they were taking a movie route with this, I'd be fine with it. Actually, I like the aesthetics of the orcs and armor and weapons a decent amount. The problem is that this is literally 'Sad Depressed Ranger with a Dead Family'.


Why is it so hard to make an open-world LOTR game during the War of the Ring? I mean, the gameplay actually looks kinda fun (ignoring the copyright infringement that's clearly occurring with the animations). Just take that hack-and-slash sort of combat, the Nemesis system, give the player a decent customization menu, and drop them into their race's region.


Oh, well. When the price drops to 30 I'll buy it, close my eyes and pretend it's not LOTR. Maybe the story will actually be a work of art, where Talion's relationship with the wraith is really well-done and his family's death is...really sad...


I can't do this, not even I'm that positive. :P


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:28 AM

Damn it, am I the only one who looks this game looks fun? I like the idea of hunting a single orc across Mordor, ready to strike, and maybe it takes itself a bit serously, but I think the setting looks  good.


But then again I think that Mass Effect 3 is a good game despite the ending, so what should I know?  :lego_tongue:

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 04:00 PM

Damn it, am I the only one who looks this game looks fun? I like the idea of hunting a single orc across Mordor, ready to strike, and maybe it takes itself a bit serously, but I think the setting looks  good.


But then again I think that Mass Effect 3 is a good game despite the ending, so what should I know?  :lego_tongue:


Are we the same person? Because my opinion is the exact same as yours. Even the Mass Effect 3 part.


The idea of just harassing one orc like a jerk is kind of funny. Like, you follow him throughout Mordor, damaging him every once in a while, until he is the highest rank possible, but he has several fears, so you can scare him and make him piss himself and then stab him in the chest. That seems like that would be fun.


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Posted 19 November 2014 - 07:44 AM


Because it's literally just 100% Assassin's Creed.


My thoughts exactly. Well, my exact statement about this when I saw the first trailer for it was: "This is Assassin's Creed in Lord of the Rings."




But possessing and controlling Orcs sounds totally badflank. :3

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 11:56 PM

Oh yeah this game is actually pretty good guys.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:54 AM

Shame the writing is literally worse than Hitler.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:59 AM


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